Saturday, 5 September 2015
The notion that nuclear is cheaper somewhere else is a myth
The British attitude to the notion that nuclear power is not cheap after all is a bit like a child who first hears that Father Christmas does not, after all, exist. Disbelief, and in this case a belief that if only Father Christmas is nationalised, then it will still be true. The psychologists call this cognitive dissonance, in other words if a fact is uncomfortable to you, you believe that the fact is wrong.
The belief that somehow nuclear power will be cheaper if somehow it is done differently here has been stoked by a recent IEA Report which says that British nuclear power, in the shape of the proposed contract for Hinkley C, is the most expensive in the world. In fact the IEA report is heavily reliant on a limited number of projections of costs, which in the world of nuclear power is a fantasy world in itself. However what is more apparent is that it is not so much that nuclear power is more expensive in the UK so much that it is only in the UK that something vaguely approaching a estimate of nuclear costs on the same basis as other energy technologies has been attempted. This is because of the need to make nuclear at least look like it was fitting into the contours of what passes for a competitive electricity generation market in the UK.
Of course nuclear power looks expensive if you do it that way. because it is! (assuming you want to treat nuclear power on the same costing basis as other energy sources). Even this (Hinkley C) comparison is somewhat biased towards nuclear because other technologies don't get 35 year contracts, and they don't get a Government offer to underwrite 60 per cent of the projected construction costs. So, the Government's declared price for Hinkley C is, in reality an underestimate of nuclear power costs compared to other energy sources. This is even more the case since the plant hasn't even started construction yet.
I'm scratching my head as to how the IEA could have come to the conclusion it did. The French EPR is now several years behind schedule in its construction and is said to now cost three times more than its original estimate (already!). As for the Finnish EPR, well, that cost just goes off the scale.
Even if you look at other reactors being built in the West, the high costs are also much in evidence. The AP1000 reactors being buult in the USA are as expensive as the EPR. See my earlier analysis at:
http://realfeed-intariffs.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/is-toshibas-nuclear-project-really.html
And the claims circulating about how the proposed Hitachi project will go better than Hinkley C are more exercises in fantasy. I commented about this earlier as well. See:
http://realfeed-intariffs.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/hitachi-bid-more-fantasy-nuclear-power.html
There's a lot of stories about how much cheaper nuclear power is in China. Well, I don't know whether anybody has noticed this, but easily analysable information on costs of nuclear construction in China is about as scarce as it was from the old British CEGB on a bad day (and it was, apart from the occasional leak, usually a very bad day).
But recent commentary of the Chinese nuclear programme is not especially encouraging: Take for example from the Global Times, whose news items seem to run in parallel with the priorities of the Chinese Government:
'Since 2004, China has been approving projects using advanced nuclear power reactors, including US-based Westinghouse's AP1000 and France-based Areva's EPR (Evolutionary Power Reactor), many of which are now under construction. Dubbed generation III reactors, they are designed to withstand the crisis that damaged the Japanese nuclear plant.
Construction of these projects has not been smooth. Sanmen Nuclear Power Station in Zhejiang Province was expected to be the first nuclear power plant in the world that uses AP1000 technology. The first of the two reactors was scheduled to finish construction and start operation in November 2013, but construction is now over 18 months behind schedule. The plant won't start operation until 2016 at the earliest, an official from China's State Nuclear Power Technology, the company building the power plant, said in January.'
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/927146.shtml
Of course the Chinese Government has some grandiose plans for nuclear power construction. So did the UK Government back in 2010!
So where is the British flight into 'nuclear power is cheap somewhere' fantasy leading us? Well, to nationalisation, of course, a charge led by the IPPR, a centre-left think tank, which I suppose, is a more plausible vehicle for this than, say, a right leaning think tank such as Policy Exchange (who, incidentally, have recently discovered that onshore wind power is reasonable cheap after all and should be offered some contracts).
Nationalisation won't make nuclear power any cheaper. The claims that somehow the 'cheaper' money from the state will make the technology less expensive ignore some relevant facts. First, the Hinkley C deal already has access to state backed finance through the agency of the state owned (French and Chinese) companies that are building the plant and the state guaranteed loan offered by the UK Treasury. Setting up a state body to compete with others in the electricity market will also generate a further (interesting) EU state aid application. But really the talk of cheap state money, is not the key point that the nuclear people are aiming at.
What the pro-nuclear lobby now wants is for limitless sums of money to be siphoned off from public spending on education, health and whatever else and spent on building nuclear power stations. The money will be notionally borrowed, a contract that will be concocted that will claim that the electricity consumer will pay the money back at a later date, and the balance will be paid for by, well, less schools, hospitals etc. Meanwhile a story will be manufactured about how all of this is cheap. Cognitive dissonance will prevent people asking why if it is ok to fund nuclear power this way, then why isn't it ok to fund offshore winfarms and other things.
Of course, even this isn't 'the crack' as a Liverpudlian friend of mine used to put it. The 'crack' is that the state will end up giving the whole project a blank cheque so that the disastrous construction process can be bankrolled entirely from a bottomless pit of state finances. Talk about allegedly 'cheap' money from the Government is just a cover for what the nuclear people are really aiming for. A cost-plus contract, spend however much you want contact, a blank cheque. The road towards this will no doubt be littered with pretend signposts, like they'll be a tender process etc, but at the end of the day nothing will happen until the blank cheque has been sent. I have been pleasantly surprised to see that the UK Government has not signed such a thing. The Treasury has not been pushed into accepting this (one thing that me and George Osborne agree about). Yet.
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In engineering terms the government sponsored investment in 4 or more third generation nuclear power station designs will be a complete disaster for the UK.
ReplyDeleteWe will simultaneously need 5 different test, simulation and training facilities in the UK (one for Sizewell B). 5 regulatory teams of specialists etc, 5 academic support networks based in our universities. 5 different learning curves. It does not take a genius to realise that this is not the most cost effective way forward, for a technology of any given baseline cost.
How did a country that produced the "Nuclear Lessons Learned" Report in 2010 come to this? I have not met only engineer in the UK (without an interest to serve) that defends this state of affairs.
The most effective anti-nuclear campaigners in the UK are those that profess to support this insane nuclear hydra.
All words, no numbers.
ReplyDeletelol
Well, I've given lots of numbers in earlier posts in this blog. One good one is at http://realfeed-intariffs.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/nuclear-power-is-more-expensive-than.html Plenty of numbers there.
DeleteDr. David Toke: A comment from across the pond:
ReplyDeleteUK Nuclear is a perfect example of how the Nuclear Industry is now trying everything it can to get a new reactor financed (with a blank check!) that will then produce an income stream for its owners for probably at least half a century or maybe even a century if decommissioning is included.
Left unsaid, is that this projected income stream will also make the energy from this new NPP so expensive that it will not only cause businesses to relocate taking their good paying jobs with them, but ever more local ratepayers will start installing their own Solar systems to escape ever higher utility bills, creating what is called Utility Death Spiral, where the Utility loses ever more of its ratepayers.
I believe that the only people supporting building new reactors are those that are receiving Nuclear Payback* of some sort or another. Unless UK ratepayers get vocal, they stand to become "enslaved" by these nuclear reactors at the very time that Solar (of all flavors) offers a pathway toward Energy Freedom (after initial costs are repaid). UK ratepayers would be well advised to learn what Germany is doing, since they are now not only phasing out their NPP but are also making big money from developing and installing renewable Energy systems.
* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nuclear+payback
Those that support nuclear power because nuclear power somehow supports them; no matter what the health implications or other "costs" are for others.
Dr. David Toke: A comment from across the pond:
ReplyDeleteUK Nuclear is a perfect example of how the Nuclear Industry is now trying everything it can to get a new reactor financed (with a blank check!) that will then produce an income stream for its owners for probably at least half a century or maybe even a century if decommissioning is included.
Left unsaid, is that this projected income stream will also make the energy from this new NPP so expensive that it will not only cause businesses to relocate taking their good paying jobs with them, but ever more local ratepayers will start installing their own Solar systems to escape ever higher utility bills, creating what is called Utility Death Spiral, where the Utility loses ever more of its ratepayers.
I believe that the only people supporting building new reactors are those that are receiving Nuclear Payback* of some sort or another. Unless UK ratepayers get vocal, they stand to become "enslaved" by these nuclear reactors at the very time that Solar (of all flavors) offers a pathway toward Energy Freedom (after initial costs are repaid). UK ratepayers would be well advised to learn what Germany is doing, since they are now not only phasing out their NPP but are also making big money from developing and installing renewable Energy systems.
* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nuclear+payback
Those that support nuclear power because nuclear power somehow supports them; no matter what the health implications or other "costs" are for others.
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ReplyDeleteBrilliant Dave. ....
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